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В эксперименте участвовало 30 слепых. Каждого слепого привели в закрытую комнату и поставили его напротив 5 цветных ящиков(цвета разные). Каждому слепому были выданы 5 записок в соответствии с цветом ящика, и попросили каждого из них подобрать правильный ящик к записке.
Перед вами результаты эксперимента:
Каждый из них сумел подобрать по крайней мере одну записку.
10 смогли ровно одну
6 смогли ровно две
4 смогли ровно 3

Вопрос: сколько людей смогло подобрать ровно 4? и сколько ровно 5?

Date: 2006-01-24 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
абсолютно правильно!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2006-01-24 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lifesoul.livejournal.com
eto bilo poleg4e 4em zada4a so 100 kolpakami :))

Date: 2006-01-24 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I know about 100 hats and this one I solved myself. But for not solving this simple one I can blame only that years of programming made me even more stupid than I was...

Date: 2006-01-24 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
хотите еще задачу?

В классе 100 папок, входят люди и меняют их положение,если папка открыта ее закрывают, если закрыта, то открывают. первый меняет все папки, второй меняет только четный, третий- только кратные трем и т.д. сколько папок будет открыто после 100 человек?

Date: 2006-01-24 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This one seems more complex. I'll think at home, right now I need to concentrate on work

Date: 2006-01-24 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
good luck in your work

Date: 2006-01-25 12:09 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ок. 1-ая, 4-ая, 9, 16, 25, 36, 49, 64, 81 папки поменяют свой статус. Остальные папки останутся в исходном состоянии.

Date: 2006-01-25 01:24 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
страшно, но вы опять правы., у квадратов не четное число делителей

Date: 2006-01-25 02:17 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Анонимус на анонимуса :) А как теперь разберешься, кто есть кто? Первый - это я, с работы писала на английском, а из дома - на русском.

Date: 2006-01-25 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
второй это я, просто не было сил регистрироваться
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Date: 2006-01-25 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ouch, forgot to choose Anonymous...

Date: 2006-01-25 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This problem has several right answers: N+/-9, N+/-7, etc.

Date: 2006-01-25 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
it isn't right, think more, here isn't any probability

Date: 2006-01-25 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ok, we know that only 9 folders will change their original state, e.g. 1, 4, 9, 16, etc.

Now, let's assume that all these 9 were open originally. Obviously, the number of open books would be now N-9.

Now, say 1st was closed originally and other 8 were open. After we change the state, the 1st would be open and 8 closed. So, the number of open folders will decrement by 7.

Repeating the same train of thoughts will have +-5, +-3, etc.

Do you see a logic error in these explanations?

Date: 2006-01-25 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
the answer is that folders no. 1, 4, 9, 16,25 etc will change their status, because square of number has odd number of multiplies, that is why it change, rest folder will return to initial status. you solved id right.

Date: 2006-01-25 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I actually gave the wrong answer, because I forgot 100th person. E.g. the difference would be 10.

Date: 2006-01-25 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markure.livejournal.com
hochu zametit chto vi tak i ne otvetili na vopros "сколько папок будет открыто после 100 человек?"

i vobse podazrevau chto barzel tut pereputal i na eto nelzya otvetit neznaya nachalnogo polazheniya papok.

Date: 2006-01-25 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
сначало они все открыты, ответ был правильный

Date: 2006-01-25 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You didn't say that they were all open before. In other words, I assumed the random distribution. In this case my solution is correct. Otherwise, of course, there is only one right answer.

Date: 2006-01-25 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is a new problem:

You have three quarters of a square Split them in four parts, all equal in shape and size.

Date: 2006-01-25 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barzel.livejournal.com
you split along two diagonals of former square

Date: 2006-01-25 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This is wrong. Do you want a link to correct answer?

Date: 2006-01-25 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No. Here it is
http://www.profox.ro/threequarterssolved.gif

Date: 2006-01-25 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
BTW, do you play in WWW team?

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